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M.I.T. Student evaluations for first term core micro theory. Bishop, 1966-69

 

The economic theory core courses at M.I.T. during the four academic years 1966/67 through 1969/70 consisted of two terms of microeconomic theory (“Economic Analysis”, 14.121 and 14.122) and two terms of macroeconomic theory (“Theory of Income and Employment”, 14.451, and “Economic Growth and Fluctuations”, 14.452). The instructors for the course by academic year were: 

14.121 (Term 1) 14.122 (Term 2) 14.451 (Term 1) 14.452 (Term 2)
1966/67 Bishop Samuelson Eckaus

Solow

1967/68

Bishop Samuelson Domar Solow
1968/69 Bishop Samuelson Domar

Foley

1969/70

Bishop Samuelson Domar

Foley

A retrospective evaluation survey of these four courses was conducted (probably) sometime in late-1970. The original student responses wound up in Evsey Domar’s files and can be found today in his papers in the Economists’ Papers Archive at Duke University.

In other posts we have the responses for Paul Samuelson’s term of Economic Analysis (14.122), Evsey Domar’s National Income and Employment (14.451) and Robert Solow’s/Duncan Foley’s Economic Growth and Fluctuations (14.452).

In this post we’ll look at Robert Bishop’s course, Economic Analysis (14.451), that covered the topics:

Preliminary view of General Equilibrium
Revenue and cost equilibrium of the firm and industry:

Monopoly and pure competition
Imperfect competition.

Factor-employment equilibrium of the firm and distribution of income.

First I provide the information about the course found in the announcement in the MIT course catalogues that essentially remained unchanged for the years from which the evaluations were solicited. The official course staffing and enrollment data that follow the course announcement confirm that Robert Bishop taught 14.121 in the four consecutive years surveyed. We also learn the names of the instructors who taught the recitation sections for Bishop’s course as well as those of several of the graduate assistant graders. Incidentally, two of his section leaders went on to win Nobel prizes in economics (Stiglitz and Engle)!

Next I include the cover letter for the questionnaire sent out along with a tabulation of responses to the qualitative questions regarding the amount of economics presumed, the amount of mathematics and the balance of the course among the topics nominally covered.

Finally, and very much worth reading!, the interested visitor will find transcriptions of the written student comments concerning Bishop’s course.

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Announcement in the Course Catalogues

 

14.121T Economic Analyis I (A)

[Bishop]
Prereq.: 14.03
Year: G (1) 4-0-8

14.122T Economic Analyis I (A)

[Samuelson]
Prereq.: 14.121
Year: G (2) 4-0-8

General theory of equilibrium under competition and monopoly. Theory of consumer choice, of demand, of the firm, of production and distribution, of welfare economics.
Bishop (14.121), Samuelson (14.122).

MIT. Catalogue 1966-67: p. 289.

page 219:

“ ‘T’ at the end of a subject number indicates that (1) a change has been made in the content or units of the subject or (2) the number was previously assigned to a different subject.

‘(A)’ following the name of a subject indicates that it is an approved subject for a graduate degree…

‘G’ is a graduate subject.

The time distribution of the subject, showing in sequence the units allotted to: recitation and lecture; laboratory, design, or field work; and preparation. Each unit represents 15 hours of work. The total unit credit for a subject is obtained by adding together all the units shown. One unit of recitation or lecture credit, and two units of laboratory or design credit, are each equivalent to one semester hour.”

M.I.T. Catalogue 1967-68: Course number drops T, p. 305

M.I.T. Catalogue 1968-69: Prerequisite for 14.121 changed to 14.04T, p. 310

M.I.T. Catalogue 1969-70:  Prerequisite for 14.121 dropped ‘T’, p. 293.

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Course staffing and enrollments 14.121
First term of 1966-1969

1966: Term I. 3 hours/week. 50 regular students, 5 Listeners.

Professor R. L. Bishop with Instructor J. Stiglitz and Teaching Assistant D. E. Black (grader)

1967: Term I. 3 hours/week 62 regular students, 0 Listeners.

Professor R. L. Bishop with Instructor C. D. MacRae

1968: Term I.  4 hours/week, 62 regular students, 0 Listeners

Professor R. L. Bishop with V. Snowberger (grader)

1969: Term I. 3 Hours/week. 47 regular students, 5 Listeners.

Professor R. L. Bishop with Assistant Professor R.F. Engle (recitation) and J. Herrero (grader)

 

Source: M.I.T. Archives. Department of Economics Records. Box 3, Folder “Teaching Assignments”

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THEORY QUESTIONNAIRE

There are two problems that the theory sequence must continually face if it is going to be as useful as possible. The first of these is adjusting to the changing background of the incoming students. The second is adjusting to the changing needs of students who will use the theory course as background for other courses and research. This questionnaire is an attempt to gather information of the current state of the theory sequence relative to these two questions. The enclosed forms contain an outline of each of the theory courses and asks three questions.

These pertain to each heading in the course outline:

Does the course assume too much or too little economics background in this area?
Does the course use too much or too little mathematics in this area?
Given the overall constraint of time, is this area gone into too deeply or not deeply enough?

For each of the questions there is room to check too much or too little, no check at all to be given if the course is about right. Please put the year in which you took the theory courses at the top of each page. There is also room in each area for more detailed comment. Use this space to be specific on the changes in the given areas which you feel would be improvements—particularly in answer to question 3. Use the space at the bottom of each page to comment on topics that are not on the list, but should appear in the course; or to make other comments we haven’t thought to ask for.

Please return to 52-380 (Miss Pope) before Tuesday, October 21.

 

[Summary from 22 student responses:
of which 2 from 1966-67; 8 from 1967-68; 10 from 1968-69; 2 from 1969-70]

Ec 121: Economic background Math Coverage
Preliminary view of General Equilibrium Too little: 0

Too much: 0

Too little: 4

Too much: 0

Too deep: 1

Not deep enough: 4

Revenue and cost equilibrium of the firm and industry:
Monopoly and pure competition Too little: 11

Too much: 0

Too little: 14

Too much: 0

Too deep: 4

Not deep enough: 5

Imperfect competition Too little: 5

Too much: 1

Too little: 8

Too much: 1

Too deep: 5

Not deep enough: 4

Factor-employment equilibrium of the firm and distribution of income Too little: 6

Too much: 0

Too little: 12

Too much: 0

Too deep: 2

Not deep enough: 9

 

From the student comments
Each bullet point from a different student.

YEAR TAKEN: 1966-67

  • Not enough emphasis on distribution theory.

 

YEAR TAKEN: 1967-68

  • Need to emphasize modern production theory rather than Marshallian theory. Neither of the courses [121 nor 122] give any mention to the modern treatments (esp., set-theoretic approach) of this material.
  • Both these courses [121 and 122] are excellent for covering the technical aspects of price theory—but both fail to provide a “total picture” of what price theory is about.
  • 121 spends too much time working out the solution to particular cases and too little time developing tools of analysis more sophis. treated than simple calculus.
  • more general equilibrium needed.
    little or no attention given to disequil
  • In general, I thought both terms [121 and 122], despite their widely differing methods, were quite good.
  • [note from secretary: “not in tabulation—she just gave it to me”]. Math in this part assumed we hardly knew a thing—could have assumed more.
    Preliminary view of General Equilibrium: [not deep enough checked with following comment:] but if this is going to be more thorough, shouldn’t be very first thing taught.

 

YEAR TAKEN: 1968-69

  • Was tedious at times but is worth doing—in fact has to be done. Perhaps the disc. of externalities could be related to Samuelson on pubic goods. And the part on distortions to the HG Johnson-Bhagwati-Ramaswamy literature on this in trade theory.
    Should have also included at least SOME reference to more modern theories of the firm (behavioral etc) and to more recent devs in other parts of micro theory (e.g. Becker on costs of time JPE 1966(?), Stigler et al on information and its costs and Lancaster on consumer theory.
    Imperfect competition: too much on the oligopoly stuff, overly simplified Stackelberg warfare etc.
  • Bishop should make more use of the mathematical techniques applicable to the general case and less of the geometry and prose of special instances. This, I think, would clarify rather than obscure. As it is, one tends to get lost in a mass of detail. Still, however, the course was very useful.
  • Monopoly and pure competition: slight shift of emphasis desirable.
  • General Comment: While analysis of this kind (the entire course) is an enjoyable mental exercise, I feel that its actual practical use for anything but expository purposes is severely limited. At all stages, an attempt should be made to make economics more relevant. At the least, areas of realistic extension and limitations should be pointed out to the class as each topic is considered.
    Factor-employment equilibrium of the firm and distribution of income: done a little too quickly near the end more time should have been allotted.
    Game theory à la Nash…What was presented here was obviously quite complicated, but given such a cursory treatment that it would have best been left out. I feel that more time should have been spent on more basic analyses such as min-max. and espec. an introduction to the practical aspects of game theory.
  • Preliminary view of General Equilibrium: excellent
    Too much oligopoly theory, too much game theory.
  • Factor-employment equilibrium of the firm and distribution of income: Fine in classic sense, yet more of income dist. needed.
  • The last part of the course, that connecting the results of partial analysis of production and distribution with the simple general equilibrium model of the first lectures, seems to me very illuminating and I feel it should be given more emphasis. A posteriori, I would have suggested one lecture less on duopoly and one more on that cost part.
  • I think a more thorough and rigorous treatment of the theory of partial welfare economics (consumers surplus etc) would be very helpful in 121.
    Preliminary view of General Equilibrium:This material should be eliminated from the course, and covered in 122.
    Revenue and Cost equilibrium: covered too slowly
    Imperfect Competition: Never seemed clear. Either cut it down or spend more time on it.
    Factor-employment equilibrium of the firm and distribution of income: More time should have been spent in this area.

 

YEAR TAKEN: 1969-70

  • 121—A good course, not very enjoyable but worthwhile.
  • 121 is an incredibly dull course. And irrelevant.

 

Source:  Duke University. David M. Rubenstein Rare Book and Manuscript Library, Economists’ Papers Archive. Evsey D. Domar Papers.Box 16, Folder “Student Evaluations (1 of 2)”.

Image Source: Robert Bishop obituary in MIT NewsFebruary 13, 2013.

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M.I.T. Student evaluations for core microeconomics course taught by Samuelson, 1970

 

The economic theory core courses at M.I.T. during the four academic years 1966/67 through 1969/70 consisted of two terms of microeconomic theory (“Economic Analysis”, 14.121 and 14.122) and two terms of macroeconomic theory (“Theory of Income and Employment”, 14.451, and “Economic Growth and Fluctuations”, 14.452). The instructors for the course by academic year were: 

14.121 (Term 1) 14.122 (Term 2) 14.451 (Term 1) 14.452 (Term 2)
1966/67 Bishop Samuelson Eckaus

Solow

1967/68

Bishop Samuelson Domar Solow
1968/69 Bishop Samuelson Domar

Foley

1969/70

Bishop Samuelson Domar

Foley

A retrospective evaluation survey of these four courses was conducted (probably) sometime in late-1970. The original student responses wound up in Evsey Domar’s files and can be found today in his papers in the Economists’ Papers Archive at Duke University.

In other posts we have the responses for Robert Bishop’s Economic Analysis (14.121), Evsey Domar’s National Income and Employment (14.451) and Robert Solow’s/Duncan Foley’s Economic Growth and Fluctuations (14.452).

In this post I’ll limit attention to the term in the core taught by Paul Samuelson, namely, course 14.122 that covered the topics of consumer theory, general equilibrium, capital theory and welfare economics.

First I provide the information about the course found in the announcement in the MIT course catalogues that essentially remained unchanged for the years from which the evaluations were solicited. The official course staffing and enrollment data that follow the course announcement confirm that Paul Samuelson taught 14.122 in the four consecutive years surveyed. We also learn the names of the four instructors who taught the recitation sections for Samuelson’s course.

Next I include the cover letter for the questionnaire sent out along with a tabulation of responses to the qualitative questions regarding the amount of economics presumed, the amount of mathematics and the balance of the course among the topics nominally covered.

Finally, and very much worth reading!, the interested visitor will find transcriptions of the written student comments concerning Samuelson’s course. These reports of Samuelson’s teaching from the last half of the 1960s are consistent with my memory from the spring of 1975. The general laments about economic theory seen in some of the evaluations are not unfamiliar to those who have cared to listen to their students over the intervening decades.

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Announcement in the Course Catalogues

14.121T Economic Analysis (A)

[Bishop]
Prereq.: 14.03
Year: G (1) 4-0-8

14.122T Economic Analysis (A)

[Samuelson]
Prereq.: 14.121
Year: G (2) 4-0-8

General theory of equilibrium under competition and monopoly. Theory of consumer choice, of demand, of the firm, of production and distribution, of welfare economics.

Source:  MIT. Catalogue 1966-67, p. 289.

“ ‘T’ at the end of a subject number indicates that (1) a change has been made in the content or units of the subject or (2) the number was previously assigned to a different subject.

‘(A)’ following the name of a subject indicates that it is an approved subject for a graduate degree…

‘G’ is a graduate subject.

The time distribution of the subject, showing in sequence the units allotted to: recitation and lecture; laboratory, design, or field work; and preparation. Each unit represents 15 hours of work. The total unit credit for a subject is obtained by adding together all the units shown. One unit of recitation or lecture credit, and two units of laboratory or design credit, are each equivalent to one semester hour.”
Source:  MIT. Catalogue 1966-67, p. 219.

MIT. Catalogue 1967-68: Same without T, p. 305. 
MIT. Catalogue 1968-69: Prerequisite for 14.121 changed to 14.04T, p. 310.
MIT. Catalogue 1969-70:  p. 293.

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Course staffing and enrollments 14.122
Second term of 1967-1970

1967: Term II. 3 hours/week. 40 regular students, 0 Listeners.

Samuelson with Assistant Professor C. D. MacRae

1968: Term II. 3 hours/week. 53 regular students, 3 Listeners.

Samuelson with Instructor D. Jaffee [2 sections]

1969: Term II.  4 ½ hours/week. 49 regular students, 1 Listener

Samuelson with visiting Assistant Professor H.J.B. Rees.

1970: Term II. 3 Hours/week. 40 regular students, 0 Listeners.

Samuelson with Assistant Professor  R. E. Grieson (1 hour per week recitation)

Source: M.I.T. Archives. Department of Economics Records. Box 3, Folder “Teaching Assignments”

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THEORY QUESTIONNAIRE

There are two problems that the theory sequence must continually face if it is going to be as useful as possible. The first of these is adjusting to the changing background of the incoming students. The second is adjusting to the changing needs of students who will use the theory course as background for other courses and research. This questionnaire is an attempt to gather information of the current state of the theory sequence relative to these two questions. The enclosed forms contain an outline of each of the theory courses and asks three questions.

These pertain to each heading in the course outline:

Does the course assume too much or too little economics background in this area?
Does the course use too much or too little mathematics in this area?
Given the overall constraint of time, is this area gone into too deeply or not deeply enough?

For each of the questions there is room to check too much or too little, no check at all to be given if the course is about right. Please put the year in which you took the theory courses at the top of each page. There is also room in each area for more detailed comment. Use this space to be specific on the changes in the given areas which you feel would be improvements—particularly in answer to question 3. Use the space at the bottom of each page to comment on topics that are not on the list, but should appear in the course; or to make other comments we haven’t thought to ask for.

Please return to 52-380 (Miss Pope) before Tuesday, October 21.

[Summary from all 22 student responses:
of which 2 from 1966-67; 8 from 1967-68; 10 from 1968-69; 2 from 1969-70]

Ec 122:

Economic background Math

Coverage

Consumer theory

Too little: 0

Too much: 1

Too little: 1

Too much: 1

Too deep: 3

Not deep enough: 1

General equilibrium

Too little: 0

Too much: 1

Too little: 2

Too much: 0

Too deep: 0

Not deep enough: 8

Capital theory

Too little: 2

Too much: 2

Too little: 1

Too much: 0

Too deep: 0

Not deep enough: 12

Welfare economics

Too little: 1

Too much: 1

Too little: 0

Too much: 0

Too deep: 0

Not deep enough: 7

 

From the student comments,
Each bullet point from a different student.

YEAR TAKEN: 1967-68

  • Neither of the courses [121/122] give any mention to the modern treatments (esp., set-theoretic approach) of this material.
  • Needs much more [capital theory]
  • For 121 and 122: Both these courses are excellent for covering the technical aspects of price theory—but both fail to provide a “total picture” of what price theory is about”.
  • General equilibrium: some of the new formulations should be discussed.
    Capital theory: less classical, more current theory would be better.
  • OK [for assumed economics background, math, coverage].
    Capital theory: need more and careful lectures—this hard to comprehend
    Welfare economics: good.
  • Math in this part was not too much if it had been presented without assuming we already knew it all—could have had more careful explanation of mathematical concepts used without decreasing the amount or level of math used. [secretary wrote at top of page: not in tabulation—she just gave it to me]
  • For 121 and 122:In general, I thought both terms, despite their widely differing methods, were quite good. I would like to see more problem sets in 122, however, if necessary, just simplified examples of the theorems proved in class. Specifically, there are too few problems in general equil, of 2 person, 2 good sort. Such problems could usefully illustrate gen. equil. and welfare econ. and the differences between the two types of analysis.

 

YEAR TAKEN: 1968-69

  • Consumer theory: would have been better to start with the simplest case rather than with that rather horrific 1st lecture, which was not al all clear.
    Capital theory: coverage was not clear
    Welfare economics: would have liked more.
    GENERAL exam questions in 14.122 re discrimination etc were very interesting + tested absorption of material much more than the standard “regurgitate” question.
  • While the noted professor who offers this course is a student of economic history [history of economics is what is clearly meant] par excellence, gifted with a dashing wit and a marvelous grasp of the anecdotal style, his comparative advantage most certainly lies in economic theory. His students have, no doubt, considered the stage as a possible career, and have universally rejected it in favor of Economics. It logically follow then that in any 90 minute period the teaching of Economics should occupy at least the majority of the time. Theatrics has its place, no doubt, to add flavor and wit to the otherwise Dismal Science, but balance is of the essence. In retrospect, we seem to have covered several major topics during the course of the term. The mind boggles at the thought of what we might have done with an hour and fifteen minutes of economics per period instead of the usual 20 minutes! (A little more care in the preparation of handouts would also have been highly appreciated).
    On a more serious note, I would personal have appreciated a more thorough analysis of the normative branch of Economics. I feel that much more time should have been allotted to Welfare Economics, in particular, to the implications of economic theory to actually policy questions. I don’t believe, as Samuelson implied in his Chomsky “debate”, that normative considerations come only after the scientist has completed his appropriate (positive) tasks. The economist has a very definite social responsibility, to which all the theorizing in the world, taken by itself, contributes not in the least.
    Comment on the Basic Theory (and, in fact, most of the courses taught at M.I.T.) The basic trend that Economics appears to be following, at least at the Ph.D. level, distresses me more and more with each consideration. High powered theory, while undoubtedly a great mental exercise, becomes merely a game when it seeks to find justification solely within itself. As young economists in an increasingly troubled world, we have a distinct obligation and a unique opportunity to aid society. Economics prides itself at its supposed superiority over its sister Social Sciences, yet it is letting its advantages, an in fact its raison d’être, slip away. Our students are far too complacent, and the course material we are taught helps perpetrate this disease. A far greater stress must be place on realism, applications and normative goals. A discipline that exists merely or mostly in professional journals and material that has as its only object the employment of economics professors is an anachronism and a decided mis-allocation of resources.
  • The topics are well chosen and worthwhile and the readings are valuable. But Prof. Samuelson should spend more time organizing his lectures and guiding his students through these unfamiliar fields and less time telling his fascinating, charming, and irrelevant stories. The lectures are the weakest part of the course.
  • Samuelson wastes the opportunity. Too many anecdotes, not enough time on the actual material. Needs to be much more systematic and organized.
  • Capital theory and welfare economics, particulary the former should have been gone over in more detail-excessive speed obscures the fact that the overall coverage may be good and satisfactorily deep.
  • General equilibrium: The 2-factor, 2-good example would be helpful here as an illustration.
    Capital theory: The treatment in this area seemed superficial. 122 would have been more enjoyable if I had had a prior course in the mathematical theory of optimizing with constraints.
  • 121-122-451-452 All four courses well taught: main difficulty with the theory sequence is the poor integration of the four parts. Less isolation, more cross-references would help.
  • [on math] Hicks reading is too mathematical or too old (Hicks…).
    [on coverage] reasonably good allocation [across topics]
    Welfare economics. Repetitive. Need typed notes. The notes are good should be typed.
    [In red marker:] Samuelson does not appear to want to teach 122.
    Find some new victim.

 

Source:  Duke University. David M. Rubenstein Rare Book and Manuscript Library, Economists’ Papers Archive. Evsey D. Domar Papers.Box 16, Folder “Student Evaluations (1 of 2)”.

Image Source:  Samuelson Memorial Information Page/Photos from Memorial Service.  Accessed via the Internet Archive Wayback Machine.